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Hope someone can answer my question. I live near Winder Barrow High School, I'd like to know if ANYONE can tell me where the awful chemical smell in the air for last couple of months is coming from? I've smelled this in air in past years, but never as strong as it is now. Out in yard all day last week, smell was strong, made metallic taste in my mouth, didn't feel to great the next day. Thank you

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MKR commented on Thursday, Nov 10, 2011 at 15:41 PM


Does it smell like any of those things? The Rhodia plant is west of WBHS.

justice4all commented on Thursday, Nov 10, 2011 at 20:29 PM

Could be. There are some pretty serious chemicals listed here. Zinc caught my eye,zinc poisoning is no joke. Had friend that was welder had them welding/tacking galvanized angle iron. Breathing fumes for just one day and ended up with zinc poisoning almost died before I could get them back to GA after removing from small Tennessee hospital where company took this person. What in the world is a European Co. doing in Winder? Wonder who owns the real estate? Someone is making some major money off this.Friends and neighbors there are some dangerous chemicals being made and released in our city, what the heck now i know why the odd symptoms after working outside and inhaling this all day.

MKR commented on Thursday, Nov 10, 2011 at 21:10 PM

I sent a note through their contact form asking them to look into it.

MKR commented on Thursday, Nov 17, 2011 at 17:32 PM

I got a reply saying the plant doesn't produce anything that would have a metallic taste.

It's someone if it's not them, and it needs to be looked into. I sent this on to our region's EPA branch. Hopefully they can identify the source and help whoever's responsible clear it up.

justice4all commented on Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 13:05 PM

Thank you so much! Found out there are others in community that have been reporting smell since May 2009, recent reports of making people ill from fumes,and of this smell around Midland Ave.I was on Midland Ave. during AM of the metallic taste in mouth, came by the Harrison Poultry Inc.( Feed Mill),also HP in Bethlehem. I checked the EPA and have print outs ( current reporting) of five Industries in Winder that are in close proximity. I have Facility Waste Transfer Reports and other release reports such as: RCRA Landfills,other landfills, surface water discharges, Land Treatment/ Application Farming, Discharges to POTW- Publicly Owned Treatment Works such as Cedar Creek WPCP,Miles Patrick Rd.Will follow with list of chemicals, elements, metals and compounds used by these local Industries

justice4all commented on Friday, Nov 18, 2011 at 13:50 PM

Stepan/Form R/ Reporting year-2010/date signed June 21,2011. Document Control# 1310208523643.Facility Registry System ID: 110000358817 (Form R)- Ethylene Glycol, CAS# 000107211, Yes to process toxic chem.;Fugitive or Non Point Air Emissions: NO?/ Total Release- 104/ Unit of Measure- Pounds/ Basis of Estimate-0-Other Approaches and Stack or Point Emissions: 332/Pounds/O-Other Approaches.
Section 6: Transfers of the Toxic Chemical in Wastes to Off-Site Locations;6.2- Discharges to Publicly Owned Treatment Works- Total Transfers-42 and 6.1B- POTW Locations: Cedar Creek WPCP.
Stephan- 1,2,4- Trimethylbenzine, Ammonia, Certain Glycol Ethers,Dimethyl Sulfate, Ethylene Glycol, Ethylene Oxide, Methanol, N-Butyl Alcohol, Naphthalene,Propylene Oxide, Sodium Hydroxide (solution), and Sulfuric Acid (1994 and After "Acid Aerosols Only)...
Harrison Poultry( Feed Mill) Midland Ave.- Copper,Manganese, Manganese Compounds,Zinc(Fume Or Dust), Zinc Compounds and Metals (EPA ID-E17001751) please check the list of metals in coumpound such as Lead, Mercury, Phenol etc. HP is privately owned and issued State/Local PSD Permit, some type of Action Description EPA ACT>90000, Pollution Class Description as Potential Uncontrolled Emissions. Only Air Release used.

justice4all commented on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2011 at 13:27 PM

Rhodia/Facility Profile Report: 1.)1,4-Dioxane 2)4,4Isopropylidenediphenol.3.) Acetaldehyde 4,) Certain Glycol Ethers 5) Chloroacetic Acid 6) Cresol ( Mixed Isomers) 7)Diethanolamine 8)Dimethylamine 9)Epichlorohydrin 10) Ethylene Glycol 11)Ethylene Oxide 12)Hydrochloric Acid (1995 and after "acid aerosols"Only)13)Methanol 14)Methyl Acrylate 15)Methyl Isobutyl Ketone 16)Phosphoric Acid 17)Propylene Oxide 18)Sodium Hydroxide (Solution) 19)Sulfuric Acid (1994 and after "acid aerosols"Only

justice4all commented on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2011 at 14:04 PM

Johns Manville- Chromium Compounds(Except Chromite Ore Mined In The Transvaal Region)CAS# N090. NAICS Code 327993/Mineral Wool Manufactoring.Section3. Activities and Uses of the Toxic Chemical: 3.1 Manufactures the Toxic Chemical=NO; 3.2 Processes the Toxic Chemical=NO 3.3 Otherwise use the Toxic Chemical=YES, as a Manufacturing Aid. Section 5: 5.1 Fugitive or Non Point Air Emissions=No, .2 Total Release per year 5.2 Stack or Point Air Emissions=NO,Total Release (per year) 25 pounds, E2-Emissions Factor, site specific. 5.4.1 Underground Injection Onsite to Class I Wells=YES, 5.4.2 UI Onsite to ClassII-V Wells=YES, 5.5 Disposal to land Onsite=YES, 5.5.1A RCRA Subtitle C Landfills=YES, 5.5.1B Other Landfills=Yes, 5.5.2 Land Treatment/Application Farming=YES, 5.5.3A RCRA Subtitle c Surface Impoundments=Yes, 5.5.4 Other Disposals=YES
Section 6- 6.1 Discharges to Publicly Owned Treatment Works (POTWs) 6.1.A Total Quantity Transferred to POTWs and basis of Estimate=1 but lists no Data, 6.1.B POTW Locations=1 but No Data, 6.2 Transfers to Other Offsite Locations= United Waste Oak Grove Landfill/ Patrick Mill Rd./ Winder, Offsite Amount Sequence=1, Total Transfers per year=.4 pounds, Basis of Estimate= E2- Emission Factor, Site Specific, Waste Management Type= M64- Other Landfills

justice4all commented on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2011 at 14:12 PM

United States Environmental Protection Agency.
Guidance for reporting Toxic Chemicals:
Pesticides and Other Persistent
Bioaccumulative Toxic (PBT) Chemicals

justice4all commented on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2011 at 14:46 PM

do any native or long time Winder residents remember J.H. 'Benny" Summerour whom passed away on October 29, 2011 at 91 years of age. I have link to Johns Manville Final Determination: On April 8, 2003 Johns Manville International, Inc. submitted an application to revise their Title V air quality permit to operate JM's existing facility near Winder, GA. On May12,2004, the Division issued a Preliminary Determination stating that the facility's planned retrofit to the raw material handling equipmwnt to allow the inclusion of an oxidative-reduction agent in the raw materials being added to the glass melters for Line # 106, should be approved. the Preliminary Determination contained a draft Title V Quality Permit amendment allowing the addition of this reducing agent into line#106. This proposed change is considered a " change in method of operation," Page 5 of paragraph #4. The change in emmissions of criteria pollutants, due to the proposed CHANGE IN THE METHOD OF OPERATION, will also include a very minute increase in the emmissions of particulate matter less tha 10 micrometers in aerodynamic diameter (PM10) and Sulfur Dioxide (SO2). SO2 emissions result from reducing sulfur trioxide(SO3) to SO2,( page 2 of report).Citizen #1, Public hearing, June14,2004." The way I understand it, the reason for the request...is to extend the life of the electrodes. The Environmental Defense Score Card ranked Johns Manville the dirtiest in Barrow County.( page#3 of report). Link below:

justice4all commented on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2011 at 14:53 PM

The above www. did not link to the public information meeting held at Piedmont Regional Library, Winder, on Thursday, Oct. 9, 2003. I have a document # I will try to link to report. Will see:)

justice4all commented on Wednesday, Nov 23, 2011 at 15:02 PM

Sorry link didn't work will try one more time to list www link if this doesn't work just Google: Mr. Summerour of Winder GA, scroll down to 8th listing and choose Wool Fiberglass Manufactoring Line Winder, GA for full 15 page meeting and report.
Will try one more link:

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